Hawaii refuses subpoena of Obama birth certificate, citing privacy concerns

 

 

by Jack Minor      -

The Hawaii Department of Health has refused to comply with a subpoena compelling the state to provide access to the original, filed copy of the President’s birth certificate, citing privacy laws.

In April, President Obama released a copy of what he says is an original copy of his long form birth certificate. The release came after the state of Hawaii had been saying for months they could not release a copy, even to the President.

Former director of Hawaii’s health department, Dr. Chiyome Fukimo, claimed she had actually seen the President’s birth certificate and it was half typed and half hand-written. The document released by the President was all typed.

Since its release, several document experts have come forward stating the document was altered and could be a forgery. No experts have stated publicly that the document has not been altered in any way.

Fox News posted a story by Jana Winter, who claimed an expert, Jean-Claude Tremblay, said there was “no doubt” the certificate was authentic. Tremblay is an Adobe certified expert with years of experience working with and teaching Adobe illustrator.

However, Tremblay told WorldNetDaily that none of the comments he made to Fox News would lead to the conclusion the birth certificate was authentic. Tremblay said, “Despite my protests, Fox News will not allow me to correct their story.”

Dr. Orly Taitz, who has filed multiple lawsuits regarding the President’s birth certificate, has filed a case in Washington D.C., seeking Obama’s original application for his social security number.

President Obama has a social security number issued in Connecticut, despite never living there. Supporters have offered various explanations for the Connecticut number. In an article on the website Obamaconspiracy.org which supports the President, author Dr. Conspiracy said he believed that, “Obama got his SSN as a child living in Indonesia and the application was just processed in Connecticut.”

Another supporter said Obama was a teenager traveling to the state on a college prep trip. “I think it’s more likely that Barack Obama may have traveled to the east coast as a teenager, perhaps in connection with some college prep activity for high school age students – that simply isn’t mentioned in his autobiography.” The poster went on to say, “It is common for schools to arrange trips for students to visit east coast colleges (Harvard, Yale, etc.); and students need to have a social security number when they register for the SAT. So, it’s possible that it was participation in some sort of college prep program that lead to the CT tie in of the social security number.”

Colorado private investigator, John Sampson, disputes these explanations, saying in an affidavit, “”It is my knowledge and belief that Social Security numbers can only be applied for in the state in which the applicant habitually resides and has their official residence.”

Taitz filed the case after submitting a Freedom of Information Act request to the Social Security Administration seeking access to the President’s original birth certificate and other documents. The reason for the FOIA request was because of the many questions surrounding Obama’s eligibility including his social security number and whether the birth certificate released by the White house is authentic. The FOIA was rejected by the SSA and affirmed by District  Chief Judge Royce Lamberth, who ruled administrative procedures had not yet run their course. Once that had happened, Lamberth ruled that discovery could go forward.

Taitz told the Gazette a subpoena was issued to the state’s attorney general and Loretta Fuddy, the current director of the Hawaii department of health. The document ordered Fuddy to produce the “original 1961 typewritten birth certificate #10641 for Barack Obama … issued 08.08.1961, signed by Dr. David Sinclair, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and registrar Lee, stored in the Health Department of the State of HI from 08081961 until now.”

The state of Hawaii responded, saying they would not release the information, citing “privacy” concerns. Taitz said the privacy issues should not apply since she is asking for access to a document the President has supposedly already released. She has since filed a motion with the court requesting they compel the government to supply the information.

Taitz’s case is the first one to be granted discovery. Every other case has been dismissed on procedural grounds without issuing definitive decisions on Obama’s eligibility.


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  • alex j rynkiewicz says:

    the treason and cover-up continues—do the govt workers and attys know they are committing treason by covering up for illegal obama. ms fuddy and dept atty gen will be charged with treason for their role in the cover-up of obamas records.

  • SamSewell says:

    Obama Ineligibility – Devvy Kidd Says It Correctly – Pay Attention to Her!
    Why Obama cannot be impeached
    http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2011/07/obama-ineligibility-devvy-kidd-says-it.html

    Do you really think AKA Obama would have won the election if all the things he is hiding were made known?

    Do you really think AKA Obama will be able to finish his first term if all the things he is hiding are made known?

    Why aren’t the polls on the birth certificate issue 100% in favor of AKA Obama practicing the virtue of full disclosure? It makes sense that supporters of AKA Obama would want the issue settled along with everyone else. I guess there is a significant portion of the population who are opposed to releasing AKA Obama’s history because they are afraid of what it will reveal. I would conclude that those opposed to releasing all of Obama’s history are frightened of the truth just like AKA Obama.

    If you are not suspicious of a man who hides his history I have a bridge in the desert I want to sell you.

    If you are unwilling to call for an investigation of a man who attempts to sell you a bridge in the desert I have some beach front property in Florida at the intersection of I75 and Florida # 29 that I want you to buy.

    If you place a down payment on a contract for the bridge in the desert and the beach front property in the swamp I would conclude that you voted for Obama.

  • borderraven says:

    §338-18 Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.
    (b) The department shall not permit inspection of public health statistics records, or issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:
    (9) A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;

  • 1776Reloaded says:

    A must read Article at The Post & Email:
    ” Barack Hussein Obama Has Not Produced Anything But a Forged Document
    AND OBAMA’S FOREIGN-CITIZEN FATHER PRECLUDED HIM FROM BEING A “NATURAL BORN
    CITIZEN.” http://www.thepostemail.com/2011/07/07/barack-hussein-obama-has-not-produced-anything-but-a-forged-document/

  • Paige Matthews says:

    The subpoena — assuming it was served properly (and there is reason to believe it wasn’t) — does not require compliance until 10:00 AM Hawaii time on August 8. Also, the letter from the state attorney general’s office did not cite “privacy” concerns. That is Orly Taitz’s characterization. The letter cited a statute that absolutely prohibits disclosure of vital records except in 13 circumstances, none of which calls for a balancing of “privacy” against public disclosure.

    And, no, to commenter alex — abiding by the letter of state law does not constitute the commission of treason.

  • old1 says:

    How can they refuse a court order? Is that foreign Communist Kenyan Brit usurper above the law? Who the hell made him King of North America? Why do We The People allow this Communist coup to continue to take place? America is being lied to while it is being destroyed right before our closed eyes! WHY? WHO? HOW?

  • Adrienne Clarke says:

    I hope Taitz KEEPS pushing for answers until the truth is uncovered.

  • Conservative Mark says:

    Since the man supposedly already released his long form birth certificate, why would they have any concerns of privacy? Time to arrest some people for contempt of court!

    I smell a rat!

  • Amused says:

    Wow, the sore losers are in full whine here. You don’t like the fact that the American people elected President Obama? Tough, vote against him next year. You have been parroting the same shrill, discredited cr*p for three years now and no-one is paying attention. You lost, get over it.

  • Ernest Frank says:

    Taitz wasn’t granted discovery. She merely got a blank issued subpoena and filled it in. The court has not yet allowed discovery and probably won’t since the case will shortly be dismissed. Discovery can only occur after a discovery conference, and there has never been one. I guess Taitz forgot to mention that when she gave you her interview.

    Nice picture of Dr. Taitz, though.

  • Howard Appel says:

    First, there has not been a court order ordering that the documents be produced. A subpoena was issued that had been signed by the court clerk – that is vastly different than a court order.

    Second, as noted above, the Hawaii State Agency did not cite “privacy concerns.” Rather, in their letter saying that they would not produce the documents, they cited the relevant code section, detailing the 13 subsections allowing for disclosure and noting that the subpoena did not satisfy any of the criteria set forth in any of those 13 subsections.

    Third,the court did not order discovery. The court said that when Dr. Taitz had exhausted her administrative FOIA remedies, she could bring an action in federal court, which she has done. As of 7/21, the government had filed a Motion for Summary Judgment against Dr. Taitz’s claim, Dr. Taitz had filed an Opposition to the MSJ, which Opposition the court had tossed because, once again, Dr. Taitz refused to comply with the rules regarding disclosure of social security numbers. The court, today, agreed to allow Dr. Taitz to refile her Opposition provided that she complies with the applicable rules. If she doesn’t, her Opposition will get tossed again and her complaint adjudged against (based on the MSJ). If she does manage to comply, which would be a first, she will still lose on the MSJ and her complaint will be adjudged against her. Upon that happening – PAY ATTENTION NOW – her subpoenas and her motion to compel compliance with her subpoenas will be dismissed as moot, and, once again – PAY ATTENTION NOW -, Dr. Taitz will have lost and gotten nothing.

    Fourth, there is nothing, Barack Hussein Obama II is a “Natural born citizen” as defined by all applicable law and judicial precedents. GET OVER IT.

  • HistorianDude says:

    @ old1

    How can they refuse a court order?

    Not even an issue. There is no court order. There is only Orly’s fake subpoena’s. They did not even have to respond, but Hawaiians are very polite.

  • HistorianDude says:

    @ Conservative Mark

    Obama can release anything he wants. The State of Hawaii? Not so much.

    They would be violating the law if they released anything to Taitz.

  • HistorianDude says:

    @ SamSewell

    Boy… you sure deleted your posts real quick at WND when it was revealed your claims of being a Presbyterian minister were fake. What’s up with that?

  • alex j rynkiewicz says:

    BREAKING NEWS—THE TREASON CONTINUES—TRUMP WANTS OBAMAS BIRTH CERT TESTED—-HAWAII OFFICIALS MS FUDDY AND DEP ATTY GEN REFUSE SUBPOENA TO SURRENDER OBAMAS BIRTH CERT TO ATTY TAITZ FOR TESTING.–JUDGE LAMBERTH SHOULD ISSUE ARREST ORDERS FOR MS FUDDY AND DEP ATTY GEN OF HAWAII. JUDGE LAMBERTHS WASH DC COURT CLERKS LOST CERTIFIED DELIVERY OF ATTY TAITZ LEGAL PAPERWORK AGAIN..FIRE THEM—-FBI INVESTIGATE THEM FOR TREASON—FBI DO YOUR JOB.

  • Litlebritdifrnt says:

    Treason? You people are so funny, you want to accuse the President of Treason? Of course to be guilty of treason he would have to be a citizen of the US, kind of punches a hole in your argument. LOL Which is it guilty of treason or not a citizen? Make up your minds your opposing views are beginning to make me dizzy.

  • how can hawaii continue this stonewalling charade?…it’s a court issued subpoena for God’s sake!

  • Arthur B. says:

    Hey, it’s Sammy! How’s it goin’, big boy? Still waiting for the OMG moment? Wow, with every day that passes, you’re lookin’ more and more like the guy that bought that bridge.

    Any. Day. Now.

  • An anti-Obama activist with a copy of Adobe Illustrator doesn’t make for a qualified document expert.

    Why doesn’t this paper, or WorldNetDaily or any doubter hire a qualified document examiner certified by the American Society of Questioned Documents Experts to give an opinion that the main stream would have to pay attention to? They have a couple of members who are experts specifically in electronic documents.

  • Arthur B. says:

    Doc. C — “Why doesn’t this paper, or WorldNetDaily or any doubter hire a qualified document examiner…”
    __

    There have been so many similar questions that have arisen. Neal Sankey’s SSAN search, for example, is the sort of data that might be a very valuable first step in a legitimate investigation. But it’s raw data. No reputable investigator would portray it as anything more than a list of suggestions, possible avenues for further research.

    How much could it cost to have a good investigator work to clean up and refine that data? Less, I suspect, that what was collected for the “Where’s the Birth Certificate” billboards.

    But the billboards are good for long-term fund-raising purposes. Having the data examined more closely entails … well, let’s say, a risk.

  • American Patriot says:

    @ Paige Matthews: The subpoena — assuming it was served properly (and there is reason to believe it wasn’t) ???? And EXACTLY what reason(s) do you state to believe it wasn’t???… 2 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT VERSIONS of a document , he refused to release and paid and continues to pay top dollar to keep SEALED has now stated BOTH copies which say different things are the TRUE originals. It’s guarantee’d the state of Hawaii will be forced to hand it over IF it truly exists, and the people refusing will be charged. Obama also CLEARLY stated on FILM while on a trip to Turkey in 08 that he was NOT an American Citizen born in America, and NOT from Hawaii, but FROM KENYA…You can of course see this on You Tube in HIS VERY OWN WORDS to an audience while on stage. He has OPENLY ADMITTED IT MORE THAN ONCE, and so has his wife while on a trip to Africa for and AIDS convention.

  • Obsolete says:

    American Patriot:
    “Obama also CLEARLY stated on FILM while on a trip to Turkey in 08 that he was NOT an American Citizen born in America, and NOT from Hawaii, but FROM KENYA…You can of course see this on You Tube in HIS VERY OWN WORDS to an audience while on stage.”

    How come I have the feeling that if I asked for a link to your imaginary video you will claim it is not there because Obama “scrubbed” it?

    You call yourself “American Patriot”. I think a more accurate name for you is “Anti-American Liar”.

  • der dawgie says:

    What utter nonsense. The Court hasn’t authorized discovery or the delivery subpoenas. Ms. Taitz is such an incompetent attorney she can’t even tell the difference between a court order and a pizza order. And the people supporting her are so dumb they don’t know the difference between a lawsuit and a leisure suit.

    Let’s be clear, there have been nearly 100 court decisions issued all over the country on matters disputing Mr. Obama’s eligibility to be President. Not a single one has ruled in the birthers’ favor. What does that tell you?

  • Arthur B. says:

    @American Patriot — “Obama also CLEARLY stated on FILM while on a trip to Turkey in 08 that he was NOT an American Citizen born in America, and NOT from Hawaii, but FROM KENYA.”
    __

    Holy Cow, Batman, you’ve found the smoking gun! Why are we even arguing about birth certificates if there’s a FILM of him saying he was born in KENYA?

    Come on, quick, tell us where we can find the FILM! Sounds like CHECKMATE to me!

    Really, what are you waiting for?

  • sillyhaha says:

    American Patriot,

    Perhaps you could link to the youtube you referenced? Certainly, if such a video existed, Orly and other “patriots” be posting it on every birfer website in existence. Certainly such a video wouldn’t go unnoticed by the birfer community.

    Before you claim that the video has been “scrubbed” by Obama’s regime, keep in mind one thing. If such a video existed, someone, somewhere, would have downloaded it for birfer purposes. The possibility that birfers wouldn’t download such a video is 0%. They would have it on their hard drives. Such a video would be everywhere. Obama’s regime wouldn’t be able to scrub a video copied on “patriots” hard drives.

    So, where is this incriminating video you reference?

  • Arthur B. says:

    Now, sillyhaha, don’t be such a cynic! The tape is right there, on the shelf — you know, between the Michelle Obama video and the recording of Obama telling Alan Keyes in a debate that he wasn’t eligible for the presidency.

    Keep looking, it’s right there … no, over a bit … no, really, you’ll find it…

  • Arthur B. says:

    To the moderator: Are you not aware that there was a rumor being promulgated that there was a video of Michelle Obama making a racist speech in which she used the term “Whitey”? It was another example of purported evidence that never made it into public view.

    I appreciate your desire to keep racist language out of the forum, but you’ve obscured my point with your edit.

    In this post I’ve got it in quotation marks along with an explanation. I hope you will permit it to stand.

  • Bill says:

    Just one question to any birthers out there, do you have your birth certificates, and if so are you going to show them to complete strangers to prove your ancestry.

    But that would mean ones personal freedom and privacy is violated, but hey biting at the Presidents heels is fine.

    America was built on the work minorities who immigrated, and those included all our ancestors. Obama is far more American in any case as he has taken the responsibility of leading the United States. Working hard for one’s country makes one a true member of that nation. Basing that ancestry on ethnicity still echoes of racism, and thats not something to be proud of in this country.

  • HistorianDude says:

    While I’m sure it must have happened before, this is the first time I have ever personally seen a Judge call a lawyer stupid. This is from Orly Taitz’s FOIA action in the DC Federal Court. He calls her stupid… twice.

    https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.g​ov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc​?2011cv0402-30

    Worst. Lawyer. Ever.

  • HistorianDude says:

    My mistake. He actually only calls her stupid once.

    But he sure drops hints to the defendants that if they ask him to sanction Orly, he’s itching to do so.

    I would (if I were Orly) kiss any motion to compel goodbye.

  • Dee Beers says:

    I just want to add a little tiny piece of information that none of the above post seem to realize. No one needs to see his ORIGINAL BC. Why? It’s very simple…..Obama himself admitted that his father was a British Subject. Therefore, means his father would pass on his citizenship to Obama Jr., that would, at the most, give president Obama dual citizenship.

    That also means that Obama cannot hold the office of the Presidency according to the Constitution. And no, you cannot impeach him, means he is sitting in the White House and isn’t a legal President. However, he can be tried for treason.

    If you haven’t already, read his book……Dreams of My Father and you will see where Obama himself said his father was a British Subject.

  • Arthur B. says:

    In Orly’s suit against the Social Security Administration, Judge Royce Lamberth, Chief Judge of the D.C. District Court, issued a scathing ruling in which he said that she “is either toying with the Court or displaying her own stupidity.”

    Story at the Legal Times: http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2011/07/dc-judge-rebukes-birther-lawyer-for-filing-errors.html

  • Arthur B. says:

    @DeeBeers –

    Yes, you are right. Obama inherited British citizenship from his father.

    That does not mean that he is not a Natural Born Citizen.

    I don’t know if anyone wants to go through the whole thing with you, but check some reputable sources. There is nothing in the Constitution that links multiple citizenship to an ineligibility to be president, and you will not find a judge or a single reputable legal scholar who says otherwise.

  • gorefan says:

    Mr. Minor

    Please infom the Colorado Private Investigator John Sampson that his statement “It is my knowledge and belief that Social Security numbers can only be applied for in the state in which the applicant habitually resides and has their official residence.” is not true.

    Here is what the Social Security Administration website says,

    “Since 1972, when SSA began assigning SSNs and issuing cards centrally from Baltimore, the area number assigned has been based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the application for the original Social Security card. The applicant’s mailing address does not have to be the same as their place of residence. Thus, the Area Number does not necessarily represent the State of residence of the applicant, either prior to 1972 or since.

    http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html

  • Jon says:

    Osama is still alive?

  • Dark Star says:

    There absolutely was a video on YouTube of Obama in Turkey admitting he wasn’t born in the US.

    Here it is: http://youtu.be/cVFtmGFrbgQ

    Watch it and you cannot deny the truth of what is going on.

  • Mark Smith says:

    But he sure drops hints to the defendants that if they ask him to sanction Orly, he’s itching to do so.
    –of course SS didn’t ask for sanctions- if they do, that gives Orly Taitz standing to sue in court and she will get that original SS application that way for sure- which is the point, they can’t release it and show the world that Obama is a fraud.

  • gorefan says:

    “of course SS didn’t ask for sanctions- if they do, that gives Orly Taitz standing to sue in court and she will get that original SS application that way for sure-”

    That is utter nonsense.

    If the court imposes sanctions, all she will be able to do is appeal them. The SSA will not be involved, it will be between Orly and the courts. Just like the first time she was sanctioned.

  • HistorianDude says:

    @ Dark Star

    And here’s the original video from which the one you linked to was faked:

    http://themoderatevoice.com/28260/full-video-of-obamas-town-hall-meeting-with-turkish-students-in-istanbul/

  • HistorianDude says:

    @ Mark Smith

    of course SS didn’t ask for sanctions- if they do, that gives Orly Taitz standing to sue in court and she will get that original SS application that way for sure- which is the point, they can’t release it and show the world that Obama is a fraud.

    Wrong again, Ranger. Getting sanctioned does not turn a failed legal argument into a successful one. It simply puts an exclamation point on the fail.

  • Oboma has NOT brought CHANGE, In fact ~~ THE ONLY real THING needing CHANGE !

    Was Barack Hussein Obama II.

    Barack Hussein Obama II ( Who hates American Values )

    Who who is A ” SELF PROCLAIMED Enemy ” ~ of responsible, Morally Conscious HARD WORKING Americans.

    oBOMAS supporters KNOW~ that Barack Hussein Obama II, WILL FORCE YOU to paY THEM, out of your PockeT ….

    This UN~CHANGABLE fraud, has done His VERY BEST to Inspire VIOLENCE.

    THESE ARE OBAMAS OWN WORDS.. saying “Bring it on” To his supporters.

    Oboma ~ Demands Saying “Get ready for hand-to-hand combat with your fellow Americans”

    – Obama has ALSO DECLARED to his Supporters

    “I want all Americans to get in each others faces!–

    Obama demands !

    “You bring a knife to a fight pal, we’ll bring a gun” – Obama Cant wait to get everybody involved in some kind OF CONFRONTATION of some sort….

    THESE ARE OBAMAS OWN WORDS..

    Obama has ALSO DECLARED “Republicans are our enemies”-

    ** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”

    ANGER VIOLENCE and more taxes….. THIS IS OBAMAS Change for america

    /“Hit Back Twice As Hard”. He commands !

    THESE ARE OBAMAS Very OWN WORDS..

    *Obama on the private sector: ~~ “We talk to these folks…~ / so I know whose ass to KICK.“
    OBOMA wants to KICK your ass /

    Shouting THAT Republican victory would mean ~ “hand to hand combat”

    HE IS EXPECTING people to kill & BE VIOLENT / for their immoral CAUSES

    THIS IS WHAT HE LIVES FOR
    THESE ARE OBAMAS OWN WORDS..
    * Obama Tells democrats: “ I’m itching for a fight.” !

    PLEASE go to reXes NEW WebsiTe ~ ! Oboma *( Just like Adolf Hitler~~ In that oBOMA~~~ Demands ! — [ THE FINAL SOLUTION – ~ For Un~Wanted Children

    Barak Obama A MURDERER .~Torturing UNWANTED babys on DEATH ROE

    http://obomanationinfanticide.sharepoint.com/Pages/default.aspx

    OBAMA supports TAKING a little NEW BORN innocent child.. / BORN. ALIVE ~

    sTabing it iN the head & SUCKs ITS BRAINS OUT.

    He also demands, that a Child SURVIVING a FAILED ABORTION, Has no RIGHT to Life or medical care.

  • And JUST one more thing if you will allow//

    And no disrespect or distain is intended for the OFFICE of our GREAT PRESIDENCY and White House.

    Respect and honor and a great varity of reasons hold the United States Presidency in our Prayers and hopes for continued blessing and truthfull success.

    BUT the truth is STILL THE TRUTH .

    oBOMA does what he has to do~~~ just to get by.

    Feeding his donors and supporters Un merited fuel, is HIS only OBJECTIVE.

    this is HIS main OBJECTIVE.

    The only REASON things get done, is because the people who SURROUND oBOMA, Drape the

    American Flag around him, WHILE HE shoves it off of himself, in disheveled pride. and NUMB ignorance.

    While, He admits, Boldly and sneeringly, he has done plenty of COCAINE.

    Please Use your head and tell us, BECAUSE we need and deserve to know…

    Why would we want a NUMB cacK heaD in the White House.

    oBOMA should have stayed *( WHERE HE WAS ) ~ in the cracK house. !

  • Rhonda Baro says:

    Isn’t Jean-Claude Tremblay a Canadian Trailer Park Boy? ;)

  • Frank Provasek says:

    105 million downloads of a free program called “youtube downloader” from cnet. You would think somebody would have copied these videos that have supposedly be “scrubbed” from you tube HAD THEY EXISTED.

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